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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:31 PM
And you gave a name
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And defined it as a host
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Error 🧶 BOT 3/3/2023 10:31 PM
if you made a tulpa that was just you what would be the fucking point?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:32 PM
If you are a host to a body, you're an invader
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entertain,me 😎
I get that, but then I asked who exactly it's it
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:32 PM
Another person inside your head.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:32 PM
But from my understanding a Tulpa was created by you
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Error 🧶 BOT 3/3/2023 10:32 PM
If you are a host to a body, you're an invader
@entertain,me 😎 - jump what?????
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The host is not an invader, it’s the original person
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 10:32 PM
what are you trying to undertand again, trees?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:32 PM
Missed a word
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"Another body"
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entertain,me 😎
But from my understanding a Tulpa was created by you
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:33 PM
Yes.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧
what are you trying to undertand again, trees?
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:33 PM
How is a tulpa not you
10:33 PM
So is that not your own conscience effort?
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entertain,me 😎
How is a tulpa not you
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:33 PM
Why would it need to be?
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 10:33 PM
it can be or can not be you, depending how you choose it. what else do you want to understand?
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Error 🧶 BOT 3/3/2023 10:33 PM
the host is the original personality. If anything the tulpa is an invader
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:33 PM
That's the only thing I wanted to understand
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Error 🧶
the host is the original personality. If anything the tulpa is an invader
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:34 PM
Invaded from where
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Error 🧶 BOT 3/3/2023 10:34 PM
Nowhere, a tulpa isn’t an invader. We aren’t aliens
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:34 PM
How is it an invader if Shiba said it was "created"?
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I'm just going by what I'm reading
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entertain,me 😎
How is it an invader if Shiba said it was "created"?
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:34 PM
It is not.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:35 PM
You said it earlier tho
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 10:35 PM
to be honest, people in community hold different views. lolcery shibi and i consider it to be arbitrary. if you'd like to ask someone who considers tulpas to be separate people you might want to ask someone who actually believes that, like @Yuka
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entertain,me 😎
How is it an invader if Shiba said it was "created"?
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:35 PM
It is not an invader i mean.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:35 PM
So is it an invader or not??
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:35 PM
No
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:36 PM
So you created it?
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:36 PM
Well, i was created in this case.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:36 PM
With your own conscious effort?
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:36 PM
I tend not to have one view on things
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Or i try to atleast
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:36 PM
I don't either I'm open ears to everything
10:36 PM
But it just doesn't make sense to me
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entertain,me 😎
With your own conscious effort?
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:37 PM
That you create something with effort does not make it you though.
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Error 🧶 BOT 3/3/2023 10:37 PM
do you not have a basic understanding of what a tulpa is? I thought Rusty linked the website for you to read
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Error 🧶
do you not have a basic understanding of what a tulpa is? I thought Rusty linked the website for you to read
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:37 PM
I didn't even know of the existence of a tulpa till I joined
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I wanted to know what that was
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:37 PM
I find it more interesting to consider other perspectives To answer what i believe to be your original question: i believe tulpas are separate from me because i do not control them
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 3/3/2023 10:37 PM
I just looked at it and yeah it does look confusing You called a tulpa an invader and then said it wasn’t. So in what way would it be an invader?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:38 PM
That exactly my point
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It doesn't make sense
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berockly (TTG) 3/3/2023 10:38 PM
If i do not control something, why should i consider it me, if i can control myself
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entertain,me 😎
I didn't even know of the existence of a tulpa till I joined
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:38 PM
Do you know what DID is and what alters are?
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 3/3/2023 10:38 PM
idk what was meant by invader either.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:38 PM
Yeah, but in those cases it would still be you
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That's why they call it dissociation
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:38 PM
Do you think it makes sense to a person with did to talk about their alters as "other people" for convenience reasons?
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 3/3/2023 10:38 PM
depends on your definition of self
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Skyler 🐉
depends on your definition of self
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:39 PM
Read up :S
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
Do you think it makes sense to a person with did to talk about their alters as "other people" for convenience reasons?
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:39 PM
It does make sense
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Which is whi I said earlier that
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 3/3/2023 10:39 PM
meant that to reply to god of trees
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entertain,me 😎
It does make sense
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:39 PM
Then that definition of you makes sense
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:39 PM
It's was an unconscious action
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:39 PM
And its convenient.
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 3/3/2023 10:39 PM
what’s an unconscious action
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:39 PM
Alters are perfectly conscious.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:39 PM
But that unconscious doesn't make it not you was my point
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:40 PM
I am conscious too, and im a tulpa
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Im not unconscious action.
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KiTTiKaTTy( •̀ .̫ •́ )✧ BOT 3/3/2023 10:40 PM
hi, i'm a did alter and i'm conscious
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 3/3/2023 10:40 PM
I can hear my headmates think. I think that would make it conscious?
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し)
Alters are perfectly conscious.
entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:40 PM
They're conscious at the cost of not being controlled which makes it unconscious
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entertain,me 😎
They're conscious at the cost of not being controlled which makes it unconscious
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:40 PM
what?
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Kira 🐉 BOT 3/3/2023 10:41 PM
I think I’m as controlled as you are.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:41 PM
Can you control your tulpa?
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:41 PM
I am a tulpa, i can control myself.
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Kira 🐉 BOT 3/3/2023 10:41 PM
I control myself.
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:41 PM
I cannot control my host.
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Kira 🐉 BOT 3/3/2023 10:41 PM
as a tulpa
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:41 PM
So when does this supposed host, return to control
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entertain,me 😎
So when does this supposed host, return to control
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:41 PM
Whenever we decide so.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:41 PM
Which makes it conscious
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Kira 🐉 BOT 3/3/2023 10:42 PM
I control my own thoughts. She has hers, I have mine.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:42 PM
An action only you could make
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:42 PM
What do you mean by suposed? are you implying that my host is not real?
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 3/3/2023 10:42 PM
define “you”
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Skyler 🐉
define “you”
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:42 PM
We tried that route.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:42 PM
No I'm implying that for a Tulpa to consider the body not their own it makes it an invader
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But yall said it's not
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Which means you created it
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Skyler 🐉 BOT 3/3/2023 10:43 PM
oh, fronting stuff
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entertain,me 😎
No I'm implying that for a Tulpa to consider the body not their own it makes it an invader
Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:43 PM
Well, we consider the body to be all of ours.
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The body is mine and its also my hosts.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:43 PM
So it's you
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:43 PM
No, its mine.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:43 PM
Regardless
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:43 PM
My body is not me. Only my mind is me.
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And only one piece of it.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:43 PM
If you and your tulpa are one in the same, how is it not you
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:44 PM
We are 3 people, sharing a brain and a body? why does that make us the same?
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:44 PM
Because you equally share 1 mind
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But have different personalities
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:44 PM
We only share part of the mind
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Me is not shared.
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Nifty is not me.
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entertain,me 😎 3/3/2023 10:44 PM
How does that even work
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Desting 😎 (Con Cat)-(おひたし、お浸し) 3/3/2023 10:45 PM
Well, there is a part of the mind that is the perception of self.
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